This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

Hello, everybody. How we doing? You may have heard me make the point before that friendship is often the missing piece in advancing your meditation practice. This thing was never meant to be done alone. It's much easier in the carpool lane surrounded by other people who take the practice seriously. That said, while friendships can make life magical, they can also be complex.

I sometimes joke that we need other people, but other people can be a titanic pain in the ass.

So today I'm in conversation with two of my very close friends and meditation buddies,

Sabine Selalasi and Jeff

Warren about the perks of meditating with friends, the importance of friendship in chaotic times

generally, how to have difficult conversations, authenticity or vulnerability versus wanton

oversharing, working with the thorny stuff that can come up in relationships,

advice for people pleasers, and how to build meaningful relationships in the age of social media.

A little bit more about my guests before we dive in. I suspect many of you know Seb and Jeff,

but here we go. Anyway, Sabinae Salasi is an author and meditation teacher.

She writes the popular substack newsletter, Ancestors to Elements, and she wrote a book called

You Belong.

Jeff Warren is also an author and a meditation teacher.

He has a substack called Home Base, and he is the co-author, along with me, of a book

called Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics.

He's also the co-host of his own podcast called The Mind Bod Adventure Pod.

Two more things to say before we dive in.

First, we recorded this conversation live in front of an audience in New York City as part of a fundraiser for the New York Insight Meditation Center, an organization I highly recommend.

And Seb, Jeff, and I are going to be co-hosting another in-person event, a meditation retreat,

a weekend-long retreat called Meditation Party.

We've been doing this for a couple of years now.

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