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The Realignment

Season Finale | Danielle Lee Tomson: Why the Future is Fusion

The Realignment

The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2026

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Danielle Lee Tomson, author of the forthcoming Under the Influence What's Real When America Feels Fake, returns to The Realignment. Wrapping-up this season of The Realignment, Marshall begins with an opening monologue summing up his takeaways from the post-2024 election period and what they mean for the future of American politics. Danielle then interviews Marshall about his Missing Liberal Story essay in the States Forum Journal. They discuss how Danielle's "authenticity gap" and book project sync with the need for the political center to tell a coherent story about the country's past, present, and future, why the left-liberal fusion is the path forward, and where the project needs to go next.

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0:00.0

Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment. Long time, realignment listeners will know by now

0:05.3

that the start and end of any of the show's seasons is pretty random. Specialist as my

0:10.2

editorial and booking strategy usually comes down to, here's who I want to talk to this week.

0:16.1

Today's finale is different. The past year and a half or so since the 2024 election has really been a season

0:22.1

itself focused on exploration and pulling on different threads, even though I often have

0:28.4

ended up in dead ends or without enough coherence to help a casual listener understand exactly

0:34.2

what's going on. Some people do their thinking by writing. Others like me do it

0:38.7

through podcasting by talking to other people about the topics that are at the top of our minds.

0:44.6

So during this period, the questions doubled in length, the rants got rantier and the tangents

0:51.0

went ever outwards. At the same time, I started to get signs that I was onto something.

0:57.9

Before I get into today's conversation then with Danielle Lee Thompson, I wanted to share what I've

1:04.2

concluded in a coherent and understandable form because the episode you're going to hear is basically a brain

1:11.9

dump where Danielle offered to sort of talk through some of these things with me.

1:16.8

Number one, best ways to start is with my identity in a way that relates to the show.

1:22.9

So during the year and a half, I went through a lot of personal and career changes that

1:26.8

really reshaped our relationship to the podcast. My son Theo is almost a year and a half old. I left

1:33.5

conservative think take world and went back to my center left roots, joined the Scanan Center full

1:39.2

time, where most of my work honestly has nothing to do of podcasting, and I found my real passion,

1:43.9

which is

1:44.6

producing events that draw on the themes I cover on the show. Best way to understand me then

1:50.9

is as a convener and think-take leader who also runs a podcast, rather than as a content creator

1:58.0

who does side gigs at various nonprofits.

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