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Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive

Season 4: Episode 4: Billye Talmadge

Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive

Making Gay History

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, History, Sexuality, Personal Journals

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2018

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Investigated by the FBI, blackmailed, but bold enough to keep going, Billye Talmadge was one of the early members of the earliest lesbian rights organization in the U.S., the Daughters of Bilitis. Visit our episode webpage for background information, archival photos, and other resources. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Eric Marcus and this is making gay history. Billy Talmud was an educator. Over the course of her life, she was an elementary

0:19.8

school teacher, accumulated two PhDs in education, and won awards for her work with

0:24.6

blind and deaf children. But for most of her working life, who she was

0:29.4

threatened what she did.

0:37.0

Billy brought her passion for education to her activism when she joined the first lesbian rights organization in the U.S.

0:40.0

The Daughters of Belitis in the mid-1950s.

0:44.0

Billy did everything from counseling women who had been thrown out of the military

0:47.2

to holding Gaben-Javas in her own living room.

0:50.0

That was the 1950s version of a consciousness raising group.

0:53.6

Do B offered Billy the chance to provide a new generation of women

0:56.9

with the answers she herself had so desperately sought as a young woman coming of age

1:01.0

in the 1940s. But if anyone had found out about

1:04.1

Billy's work with the daughters, she could have been fired from her job. When I

1:08.1

interviewed her in 1989, she asked me to intentionally misspell her name for

1:12.2

my book to conceal her identity.

1:14.8

She was still worried about losing her job if her colleagues found out she was a lesbian.

1:21.5

Here's the scene. Billy Talmadge is in her early 60s and lives with her partner Marsha Herndon and there are three cats,

1:28.0

two enormous calicoes and one tiny kitten in a small house in what was a rough neighborhood across the bay from San Francisco.

1:35.0

Billy is sitting at her dining room table.

1:37.0

She's heavy set with short reddish blonde hair.

1:40.0

She laughs easily and speaks with the excitement of a pioneer recalling the early days of her life in the movement

1:46.8

Billy lights a cigarette before explaining how she came to be a crusader for lesbian rights

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