Boxer turned bouncer Viv Graham was one of the northeast most notorious hard men.

It was huge, you were strong, we could take anybody out.

Not many men on earth could match Viv Graham.

But his life of violence led to his downfall.

Why did it happen?

Why did they do that?

How did Viv Graham build an empire?

It was the power, the presence, the aura. And who was he, really?

Gangster, the story of Viv Graham.

Listen first on BBC Sounds. So we kind of promised a guess this week. You promised to guess this week, not me.

Yeah, you set the bar pretty high you in a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah. When you brought your meeting, Gereri, who was absolute class in fairness to him.

So I felt a little bit under pressure there.

So I was at a list, isn't it?

That is, yeah, yeah.

So I was looking right and dig it out on my phone now.

And either of a celeb or sportsman.

I haven't got any so I had won't be. So I don't, I'll give Samish out instead.

So in fairness to him, he was going to come when Garin came in,

when he went he up, but then... I would have loved to come with Garin, but I got to worry about things like child care these days.

Exactly. So he's in the real world now isn't he? I know so I did ask my mother-in-law she's good as gold on a Monday she always has my little one you're not going to blame your mother

even the morning or afternoon but she couldn't do the slots where you guys were

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