You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds. So it's an early morning one which I always like because you prefer the morning

I just quite like I get an afternoon slum so yeah if I come in a

other two three o'clock there is yeah

it's hard to be a fantastic day in there. Pro up the kids off and then yeah fresh

start the day off. And you got my coffees so thank you.

Can I hear coffees?

I was on which I paid for again.

But we talked about that.

You keep talking about that.

Actually, Kim voices.

Send it through as your expenses.

You're right there, I'm actually making a loss.

You are. I was trying to work it out the other day.

I was like, yeah, you had in petrol and food to this and you...

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