Hi, I'm Bill Crystal. Welcome to Conversations. I'm joined today by Sean Trendy, Elections

and Analysts, Senior Elections Analyst for Real Clear Politics, visiting fellow at AEI

American Enterprise Institute. And really, one of the best, in my opinion, heart-headed

analysts of elections and our politics were broadly, that I've had the pleasure of

growing over the last decade or so. I always reach out. He's good at, he's skeptical

about many of these big theories and including some of mine at times. So I've

always learned a lot from his kind of, as I say, heart-headed willingness to look

at the facts and not simply indulge in different wishes about how the electorate is going,

wishes about the electorate going in the direction one wants it to go, I suppose, to the way

what it really is. So Sean, thanks for joining me today. Thanks for having me. I'm excited

to be here. Yeah, I look forward to this conversation. So let's talk about, I mean, about elections,

about the electorate, where we are politically in the broadsessentures of our parties and

the electoral situation. I guess we should begin. We can go back, maybe at the end, we'll

go back a little bit to the broader moment we're in with partisanship, popularization,

all that, but maybe we should just begin, go from 2020 to today to 2022 and maybe 2024

and just, you know, where are we? So if someone asked you, what's the current situation?

The situation I've most recent, big national election was November 2020. What did it tell

us about the Democrats, the Republicans, the voters?

You know, I think the best way to look at 2020 is that Democrats basically won three coin tosses

to get the trifecta that they have. And those coin tosses, one of them or all of them could

easily have gone the other way, right? I mean, their house majority is five seats. Their Senate

majority, if Purdue had gone up, I think 13,000 votes, there wouldn't have been a Georgia runoff

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