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🗓️ 29 August 2025
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Rog sits down with Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay to talk leadership, his bond with Mikel Arteta, and how soccer sharpened his coaching eye. McVay shares what he learned from Arsenal about competitive stamina, how he metabolized a Super Bowl loss on the way to a ring, and the coaching mantra Mikel Arteta wrote on his board: “Make it happen.”
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| 0:15.4 | I look up to Mikkel. |
| 0:16.5 | I cherish the times that we get a chance to even just spend a couple moments together. |
| 0:20.5 | You know, we've connected, We stay in touch through WhatsApp. |
| 0:23.0 | I still have his writing, make it happen up on my board here. |
| 0:26.2 | And that's about taking the next steps, whether that's finishing the deal, you know, |
| 0:29.6 | winning the Premier League, you know, coming away with some trophies. |
| 0:32.2 | I've just loved everything that he's about. |
| 0:34.3 | And shoot, I'm a huge Arsenal fan now. |
| 0:42.7 | Yeah. thing that he's about. And shoot, I'm a huge Arsenal fan now. My guest today, the youngest coach ever to win a Super Bowl, still just 39 years young, |
| 0:49.5 | known for his shark thin hair, black belt in leadership, |
| 0:53.2 | Mensa-level steel trap ability to remember every single play in his glorious career, |
| 0:58.4 | one in which he traded one type of football for another during high school, |
| 1:02.6 | but he still proceeded to forge a fascinating friendship with Arsenal manager, Mikkel Artetta. |
| 1:09.0 | And to talk about it all, it's a joy to welcome head coach |
| 1:12.0 | of your Los Angeles Rams, the pride of Dayton, Ohio. It's Mr. Shaw McVey. |
| 1:17.7 | Hey, Raj, that's a heck of an introduction. I appreciate that. We got to help get our guys in LA |
| 1:22.6 | on that kind of stuff. You make me sound a lot better than I am. |
| 1:33.0 | You've packed a lot into a little time. I've got to tell you. And there's a lot of reasons I admire you. |
| 1:41.4 | The creativity of your thinking, your winning mentality, your ability to do 405 pounds, to lead an NFL locker room at 30 years of age. That is Mozart, Bobby Fisher-level prodigy stuff. How much is leadership a natural skill, innate? And how much can it be learned? You know what? I think I've been very fortunate, Raj, to grow up around what great leadership looks like, starting with my dad, Tim McVeigh. American football is in kind of our blood. You know, my grandfather, John McVeigh, Sr. was a coach and then went into being a general manager for a team for a long time. And so I've been really fortunate to be around great people that modeled the way. You say you come from a football bloodstock. There is a sliding door, Shaw McVeigh soccer trajectory. We have to touch upon it. Freshman year of high school, |
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