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She said, I asked no favor for my sex.

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We are your host today.

I am Melissa Murray, fresh from a sojourn in Paris, which is probably obvious from your opening. I am Kate Shaw. And it's just the two of us today. And we've got another two-part summer episode for you. We will start by bringing you up to speed on various developments in the executive branch and also in the courts. And we will then bring you a conversation that Melissa and I recently had at NYU with Melissa's

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