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Strict Scrutiny

Can Trump Sue His Way Out of the Epstein Mess?

Strict Scrutiny

Crooked Media

Philosophy, News, Government, Supreme Court, Society & Culture

4.8 • 4.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Kate and Leah break down the week’s legal happenings, including Trump’s flailing efforts to manage the Epstein fallout, the latest abomination from the shadow docket, and the legal quagmire surrounding Trump lackey Alina Habba’s appointment as U.S. Attorney for New Jersey. Then, they speak with law professors—and former clerks for David Souter—Allison Orr Larsen and Erin Delaney about the late justice’s legacy.

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0:00.0

Strict scrutiny is brought to you by Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

0:04.5

You don't destroy 250 years of secular democracy without gutting some precedent, shattering some norms, and dropping a few billion.

0:12.6

The same people and groups that back Project 2025 are part of a larger shadow network that's relentlessly pushing to impose a Christian nationalist agenda

0:21.7

on our laws and our lives. Church state separation is the bulwark blocking their agenda.

0:27.6

One of the last bastions of church state separation is our public school system. So these factions

0:32.5

are now pushing vouchers everywhere. They're arguing for religious public schools. Yes, you heard that right,

0:38.6

religious public schools. And you know that we have talked about the case that they brought

0:43.9

before the Supreme Court, St. Isidore. We narrowly escaped a real catastrophe with that decision,

0:49.8

but it's still percolating and it will be back at the High Court soon enough. So if you are listening

0:55.0

to strict scrutiny, you can see the writing on the wall. You know that we can and we must fight back.

1:01.6

Join Americans United for separation of church and state and their growing movement because

1:05.5

church state separation protects us all. Learn more and get involved at AU.org forward slash crooked.

1:12.6

Mr. Chief Justice, may please support.

1:16.6

It's an old joke. When I argue,

1:19.3

men, argues against two beautiful ladies like this,

1:21.8

they're going to have the last word.

1:24.7

She spoke, not elegantly, but with unmistakable clarity, she said, I ask no favor for my sex.

1:35.6

All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet or for next.

1:54.9

Yeah. or for next. Hello and welcome back to strict scrutiny, your podcast about the Supreme Court and the

1:59.1

legal culture that surrounds it. We're your host today. I'm Leah Littman. And I'm Kate Shaw. And we are continuing our summer approach of taking a little rotating respite from the hellscape. So it'll just be the two of us today. And we have another two-part summer episode for you. We will start with some breaking legal news from the last week that will include a number of legal developments on the Jeffrey

2:17.6

Epstein front that really aren't great for the Trump administration. But don't worry,

2:22.3

SCOTUS is there to give Trump a boost. So, of course, it has weighed in to underscore that, yes,

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