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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

SCOTUS Doing Its Worst - Strict Scrutiny Crossover

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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🗓️ 9 July 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Another year, another pretty wild Supreme Court term. SCOTUS recently ended its term with a number of big decisions including ruling that former president Donald Trump is immune from prosecution for his “official acts” in office. And it also overturned the Chevron doctrine, reversing a 40-year-old precedent that afforded federal agencies a degree of discretion in interpreting ambiguous laws. As always, there’s a lot to unpack and we’re excited to share our third crossover episode with the hosts of the Strict Scrutiny podcast, Chris’ wife Kate Shaw, and her co-hosts Melissa Murray and Leah Litman. They join to discuss some of the most alarming actions from the super conservative majority of the Court, attacks on government agencies and more.

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The idea that these people are so satisfied and are so convinced by what they are doing,

0:16.0

it's grotesque because you think about, for example, the court's inability to imagine a post-Roe versus Wade future where you have justices

0:24.7

confidently predicting that the federal courts will be out of abortion cases once they

0:29.1

overrule Roe, that was nuts. And similarly when the court overruled Chevron they're just like yeah

0:34.8

here's some random thoughts about what the push Chevron world will look like but

0:38.8

gosh knows we haven't decided to actually hammer them out because we've just

0:41.8

drank the cool aid the The court has just it

0:44.5

seems to me given a permission structure for Trump to do everything in his

0:50.5

wildest imagination he might want to do but might have been somewhat

0:54.2

constrained by the prospect of legal accountability from doing all of that is now gone

0:59.2

so you have I just it seems to me an not only a wildly wrong but just an unfathomably dangerous decision.

1:07.0

If you think about the whole system of constitutional design, the point of the

1:15.0

point of the Constitution and the separation of powers is that you don't want any one of these branches to consolidate power in a way that allows them to dwarf any of the others and you have this court essentially creating a king and

1:25.1

creating within itself kind of would be kings. Hello and why is this happening with me your host Chris Hayes.

1:37.0

Very quick intro today because things are dire and we got to get to the point

1:47.2

but we are reprising what is quickly becoming an annual tradition which is

1:51.4

when the Supreme Court finishes doing its worst in June and this year into July,

1:59.1

we do a term review with the hosts of by far my favorite legal podcast, really my

2:03.8

favorite podcast with three of my favorite people, one who is particularly my

2:07.8

favorite. The podcast is called strict scrutiny. You can find it wherever you get

2:11.8

your podcast. It is hosted by three women law professors Melissa Murray who's at

2:15.7

NYU lay a litman who's at Michigan and my wife Kate Shaw who is at pen

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