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Decoding the Gurus

Scott Galloway, Part 1: On Men

Decoding the Gurus

Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

Science, Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Leisure

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2026

⏱️ 171 minutes

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Summary

We return to the podcast circuit in 2026 to examine Scott Galloway: NYU professor, prolific podcaster, and, more recently, part-time life coach for struggling young men.

Joining him on an episode of Modern Wisdom with Chris Williamson, we are invited into one of the few remaining forbidden conversational spaces: men, masculinity, and men’s problems. You may have been misled by the relentless popularity of Joe Rogan, Modern Wisdom, The Tucker Carlson Show, Triggernometry, The Diary of a CEO, Huberman Lab, and several dozen adjacent properties into thinking these topics are already discussed at length on a near-weekly basis. Alas, this turns out to be a dangerous illusion.

In reality, even mentioning men’s issues requires an extended ritual acknowledgement of women, failure to perform which risks immediate cancellation. Braving these cultural headwinds, we wade into manly dialogue about masculinity, sex differences, and male malaise. Along the way, we ponder the intricacies of culture war evolutionary psychology, anthropological wars over Man the Hunter, optimised dosages for manly whingeing, and whether making boys learn French verb conjugations qualifies as a human rights abuse.

So get your notebooks ready for some important notes from two of the most masculine men in the modern male podcasting space. Men...

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Academic papers Referenced

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  • Protective effects of marriage on life expectancy (US Medicare sample): Jia, H., & Lubetkin, E. I. (2020). Life expectancy and active life expectancy by marital status among older US adults: Results from the US Medicare Health Outcome Survey (HOS). SSM – Population Health, 12, 100642.
  • Widowhood and well-being (contrary to claims of increased happiness): Adena, M., Hamermesh, D., Myck, M., & Oczkowska, M. (2023). Home alone: Widows’ well-being and time. Journal of Happiness Studies, 24(2), 813–838.
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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Cody the Gurus, the podcast, we're an anthropologist and the

0:27.1

psychologist, listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer, and we try to understand what

0:31.5

they're talking about.

0:32.7

I'm Matthew Brown, I'm the psychologist from Australia.

0:35.4

With me is Chris Kavanaugh.

0:37.4

He's the Wayland Smith's to my Mr. Burns,

0:39.8

and he is the anthropologist from Japan.

0:43.7

Hello, Chris.

0:44.8

I was about to do a Smiller's impression,

0:47.1

but I realized I can't remember.

0:48.9

Like, I can visualize him, I can hear, but I can't do it.

0:52.8

So, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't do it. So, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:55.6

I can't do it either.

0:57.1

I do feel more kin to Mr. Burns, more and more, I think, is the years.

1:02.5

I was trying to, I was trying to work out.

1:04.5

Is that the right dynamic?

1:05.8

But yes, you do make me think of Mr. Burns.

1:09.1

That's, you want to build a big, giant thing to block out the sun.

1:13.5

The sun.

1:14.3

Yeah.

1:14.9

Well, I think I need some sort of antiquated rejuvenation treatment, something that Mr. Burns would

1:20.5

have, like some sort of concoction comprising, I don't know, quicksilver, lordinum and ether,

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