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The Breakdown

Scott Besson Walks Into a Bitcoin Bar

The Breakdown

Blockworks

Investing, Business

4.8806 Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Bitcoin steadied after a brutal week that saw cascading liquidations, battered ETFs, and growing questions about whether the drawdown was macro-driven rather than crypto-specific. Analysts are watching for early bottom signals as funding rates flip negative, long-term buyers nibble, and headline flows finally stabilize. But the bigger story is the macro backdrop: AI stocks sliding, liquidity tightening, Fed speakers clashing, and the White House sending Scott Besson on another weekend media blitz—capped off by his appearance at the PUBKey DC opening. With recession debates heating up, fiscal impulses looming, and rate-cut odds abruptly snapping back, today’s episode dives into why the narrative tug-of-war matters more than any single price tick. Enjoying this content? SUBSCRIBE to the Podcast: https://pod.link/1438693620 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheBreakdownBW Subscribe to the newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://blockworks.co/newsletter/thebreakdown⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the discussion: https://discord.gg/VrKRrfKCz8 Follow on Twitter: NLW: https://twitter.com/nlw Breakdown: https://twitter.com/BreakdownBW

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0:00.0

Welcome back to The Breakdown with me, NLW.

0:09.3

It's a daily podcast on macro, Bitcoin, and the big picture power shifts remaking our world.

0:18.3

What's going on, guys? It is Monday, November 24th, and today we're talking about Scott Besson

0:23.9

walking into a Bitcoin bar. Before we get into that, however, if you are enjoying The Breakdown,

0:28.0

please go subscribe to it, give it a rating, give it a review, or if you want to dive deeper

0:31.2

into the conversation, come join us on the Breakers Discord. You can find a link in the show notes

0:35.0

or go to bit.ly slash breakdown pod.

0:44.6

All right, friends, let's kick off as always with a little bit of price chat. After a relatively quiet weekend, some are asking is the bottom finally in for Bitcoin. Friday saw some nasty

0:50.2

price action to end the week with Bitcoin extending its slide all the way down to 80,500.

0:54.8

Around $2 billion in leverage positions were liquidated in another series of sharp moves down.

0:59.3

But markets fell quiet on Friday afternoon and remained subdued all weekend.

1:03.4

Bitcoin floated up to a weekend high of $88,000 and entered the week trading it around $86,000.

1:08.6

It's not much to go on so far, but a little bit of stability was enough

1:11.9

to trigger some hope among analysts. In his Monday morning newsletter, Checkmatey noted that Bitcoin

1:16.6

found support on the true market mean, the average cost basis for all coins acquired in secondary

1:21.2

markets. Grim Capital wrote, Bitcoin funding rates are now starting to roll over into the negative.

1:26.4

This means bottom catchers are starting to give up. A real bottom can now develop. It's nothing inclusive for the moment, but if you are looking for signs of a bottom, they are starting to appear. Looking back at this month's drawdown, J.P. Morgan suggested it wasn't crypto-native sellers driving the price action. In a Friday note, they wrote, instead it has been non-crypto

1:44.4

investors, mostly retail investors who typically use spot and Ethereum ETFs to invest in the

1:48.3

crypto market, that appear to have been mostly responsible for the continuation of the

1:51.8

crypto market correction in November. Interestingly, J.P. Morgan doesn't view the ETF flows as

1:56.3

institutional investors, but instead, the average retail investor with an e-trade account.

2:00.8

The research note also pointed out that retail buyers have been piling into equities during the drawdown on that side of the market. Analysts wrote, It would thus be a mistake to extrapolate the selling of crypto ETFs as a signal that retail investors are turning bearish on risk assets more broadly, including equities. They argue that all that's really happened so far is an

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