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The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie

Scott Barry Kaufman: Incels, Narcissists, and the Victim Mindset

The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie

The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie

News, Politics

4.6713 Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Psychologist and author Scott Barry Kaufman joins Reason's Nick Gillespie to discuss his new book Rise Above, which challenges the…

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0:00.0

This is The Reason Interview with Nick Gillespie.

0:04.4

My guest today is psychologist, podcaster, and best-selling author Scott Barry Kaufman,

0:10.2

whose new book is Rise Above, Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself, and Realize Your Full Potential.

0:19.0

It's part self-help, part social commentary, and all about

0:22.8

reclaiming your life from limiting beliefs. I talked with him in front of a live audience at

0:28.7

the Village Underground Comedy Club in New York City, and Scott discusses his unlikely journey

0:34.3

from special ed student to Ivy League academic, how we've built a society that

0:40.0

rewards neuroticism and victimhood, and why he thinks vulnerable narcissism is running wild

0:46.9

on college campuses and in national politics. Scott mixes the empathy of Carl Rogers with

0:53.7

the blunt logic of Albert Ellis.

0:56.1

They were two of the 20th century's most influential therapist, and he counts them as

1:00.4

influences.

1:01.7

And he has some wild stories involving opera school, Facebook stalking his childhood bullies,

1:08.2

and awkward camp crushes.

1:10.6

This is a conversation about tapping into your full potential and taking control of your

1:15.1

life while making the world a better place.

1:18.4

Here is the reason interview with Scott Barry Kaufman.

1:24.1

Let's have a big hand for Scott Barry Kaufman.

1:29.3

I want to start with Rise Above.

1:31.8

You have an epigraph at the beginning, which is from Carl Jung, and it says, I'm not what happened to me.

1:40.2

I am what I choose to become.

1:42.7

Could you?

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