Welcome to Our Henn House.

This is Jasmine Singer.

This is Marianne Sullivan.

And this week we will be talking with scientists and author Mark Beckoff, who has written

more about animal behavior, the emotional lives of animals,

wild animals, compassionate conservation, and so much more than basically anyone in the world.

Yeah, he's been doing it for a long time. And yeah, he's written so many amazing books. And it was

really fun. We did this as a flock interview. So, Flok Friday, yeah,

we do it basically live with a, with an audience, a virtual audience, and that was really fun.

Yeah. I think we all had a really good time, actually. I did too. I got to think he did. I hope

I'm right. I think so. Yeah, he definitely looks like someone I would want to like get a beer with. You know what I mean?

By the way, I was listening to this audiobook having nothing to do with animal rights at all.

It was called Do Nothing and it's just about overworking. I could write that book.

You don't have time. So seriously, this person wrote a book called Do Nothing and she's sitting down and writing a book.

What's wrong with this?

It was a really good book.

It's by Celeste Headley.

And I have to tell you, it's so funny because you and I were discussing the Mark Beckoff interview.

I was at your house and I walked there and I left, put on my earbuds, turn on my audio book.

Within one minute, she talks about Mark Beckoff in the book.

That's having nothing to do.

Completely bizarre.

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