Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast. I'm Dave Ziron. This week we have an amazing interview with Scoop Jackson, author of the new book, The Game is Not a Game, the power, protest, and politics of

American sports. Scoop is the John Coltrane to the sports page, and you're going to want to hear

what he has to say. Now, I did this interview with Scoop on a live stream for Haymarket Books,

and they were kind enough to say that we could re-broadcast it here.

It's really great.

I take questions from all over the world.

People who are watching us on YouTube.

It's just great stuff.

You're going to love it.

Also, I've got some choice words about how the NFL is now part of Trump's re-election project.

I've also have Just Stand Up and Just Sit Down Awards. But first, let's talk toelection project. I've also just stand up and just sit down awards. But first,

let's talk to Scoop Jackson.

And now it's my pleasure to bring in. I call him the Coltrane of the sports page.

I try. He's wearing a Coltrane shirt. I've been calling him the Coltrane of the sports page. I tried, he's wearing a cold train shirt.

I've been calling him the cold train of the sports page for over 10 years.

I tried to make it catch on as a thing because when I used to read Scoop on the New York City subway,

reading my Slam magazine, I always thought his writing was like jazz.

And so I called him the Coltrane of the Sports page before I even knew that he was a flesh and blood person and not just a figure behind these terrific articles.

He is a national senior writer for ESPN. He has covered issues of race, culture, and sports

for various publications over 25 years, former executive editor at Slam Magazine, former publisher

of The Agenda, an author of this book, which I absolutely love.

And it's called The Game is Not a Game, the Power, Protest, and Politics of American

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