“For Pfizer … total contracts of the European Union was 72 billion euros to buy vaccines. They bought 10 vaccines for every person in the European Union. So, it’s a huge amount of taxpayers’ money.”

I sit down with Rob Roos, a Dutch member of the European Parliament. Roos made global headlines after he got a Pfizer executive to publicly admit that Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine was never tested for stopping transmission of the virus.

“At that moment, I realized this is a game changer,” says Roos. “We put it online and it was crazy. It went so far off, because everyone in the Western world—I can speak for them, I think—had the feeling they were fooled, really fooled by their governments. And that’s not what governments should do. They’re chosen to serve the people. But they fooled the people. It was a false narrative.”

Roos says that media attempts to frame him as a purveyor of “misinformation” and the counter-argument that Pfizer had never claimed that the vaccine was tested on stopping transmission is mere gaslighting.

“That was not my argument,” says Roos. “My argument was that our governments said that. But [Pfizer CEO] Mr. Bourla could have said to our governments, ‘Listen, we didn’t test it on that. You better not push people to these vaccines with that argument.’ He didn’t do that because there’s a lot of money involved, of course.”

We discuss the response to the pandemic in the Netherlands and in Europe, and why Roos believes common sense should prevail over official guidelines when liberty is at stake.

“It’s a dangerous situation, because now it’s the vaccine. What’s the next time?” Roos asks.