Science And The Election, Disinformation, Vampire Bats. Oct 30, 2020, Part 1
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🗓️ 30 October 2020
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| 0:00.0 | This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. A bit later in the hour. We'll talk about science issues on the ballot |
| 0:06.0 | around the country. But first, the pandemic continues to escalate, with cases rising in most states, |
| 0:13.0 | and a new nationwide record for daily cases, nearly 90,000 for the first time ever yesterday. And as the virus spreads, a worrisome study of |
| 0:24.4 | antibodies and people recovering from infection, suggesting that the protective antibodies |
| 0:30.2 | our immune system generates may disappear in as few as three months. But as is often the case |
| 0:37.3 | with the immune system, it may be more |
| 0:39.2 | complicated than that. So here to explain more is Yasmin Tayeg, senior editor for One Zero, and a writer |
| 0:46.1 | for the Medium Coronavirus blog. Welcome back, Yasmin. Hi, Ayretz. Good to be here. Nice to have you. |
| 0:53.4 | Sort of a double whammy of bad news. |
| 0:55.6 | That would be bad if our antibodies declined quicker than we had hoped for, right? |
| 1:00.1 | It would be bad, but I'm choosing to view the new antibody study with a very hefty grain of salt. |
| 1:06.9 | This was the React study that came out from England, from scientists at Imperial College London. |
| 1:12.8 | And it showed that the proportion of people who tested positive for antibodies dropped by almost 27% between June and September. |
| 1:21.6 | And it was a big study. It was about 365,000 people. |
| 1:26.4 | One of the major concerns about this study is that it didn't really control |
| 1:30.3 | for the way antibodies are made in the body. Antibodies come in two waves. First, there's the big |
| 1:36.5 | spike that comes after infection, and that lasts for a few weeks. And then there's a second wave, |
| 1:42.0 | and this comes weeks, maybe months after the first wave. And this wave is led by cells called plasma cells that make fewer but much stronger antibodies. So there aren't as many antibodies produced during this phase, which is why if you, you know, look at a chart over time, there's far fewer. But the plasma |
| 2:05.2 | cells that make them last a lot longer, even up to decades. So the concern is that the React |
| 2:12.0 | study was catching that first dip in antibody production, which is expected. And there's no real way of |
| 2:22.0 | telling. So you're basically saying this is not settled science yet. It is not settled science |
| 2:28.3 | yet, like so much with the coronavirus. And there's a lot left we need to learn about just what antibodies even mean for |
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