Welcome to the Dispatch podcast.

I'm Sarah Izger.

That's Jonah Goldberg and Steve Hayes.

And yeah, we're gonna talk about the indictment.

We're gonna try to stay away from the legal side, though,

and talk mostly about the political side

and some of the larger cultural, political ramifications

as we head into an election year

where one guy's under indictment

and one guy's DOJ is doing the indictment.

And we'll also talk about Fitch's downgrade

of our credit rating, not great, y'all.

And maybe we'll have a little not worth your time at the end.

Let's dive right in. Okay, I do not want to get in the weeds

on the legal stuff.

But I do want to address some of the stupider arguments

that I've seen from law people across the board

trying to simplify this down for their side

to then win the argument, and it's annoying me.

So I just want to start with the one

that I think has been most prevalent on the left.

I saw Mark Elias post this.

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