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The Dispatch Podcast

Israel's Constitutional Moment

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Israel is undergoing a sea change. The battle over a judicial overhaul hides much deeper national schisms. The Times of Israel Senior Political Analyst Haviv Rettig Gur joins Senior Producer Adaam James Levin-Areddy to try and make sense of the mess. Will the reform fix or break Israeli democracy? Why doesn't Israel have a constitution? Why are elite military volunteers joining the protest? Does Benjamin Netanyahu have a plan? Is the Israeli left dead? Is the Israeli right broken? And what does "right and left" even mean? (Not what it means in the U.S, that's for sure!) Show notes: -Gur's profile at the Times of Israel -The Morning Dispatch's latest coverage of the overhaul -Who is Itamar Ben Gvir? (A Dispatch Podcast explainer)  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast.

0:02.3

I'm Adam, senior producer at the Dispatch, and today we're going to talk about the Israeli

0:08.4

Judicial Reform.

0:11.7

As you probably have read, hopefully on the morning Dispatch, Benjamin Netanyahu's government

0:17.8

in Israel is trying to advance laws to limit the power of the courts.

0:23.4

They say that this is an overdue correction, and necessary to restore the balance of powers.

0:30.2

While opponents who have taken to the streets in massive protests over the past few months,

0:36.5

say that this is actually an attempt to subvert democracy.

0:40.2

So I'm joined by Javi Gour, political analyst for the Times of Israel.

0:45.4

He is a fantastic journalist who I've been reading for over a decade.

0:51.0

And honestly, if you're looking for smart, anti-partisan coverage of Israeli politics,

0:55.4

you should really check out his writing.

0:57.1

He's going to give us some background on the Israeli system of government and how we got here,

1:00.9

but also insight into what's really animating this Israeli Cultural War.

1:07.0

We try to avoid getting too deep in the weeds, but at times it wasn't inevitable if only to show

1:13.2

just how different Israeli politics and culture is from the US. It's easy to forget that sometimes.

1:27.1

So is the Israeli democracy in danger because of the power of the Supreme Court,

1:38.5

or because of the reform? Are we currently witnessing the fracturing of Israeli society,

1:43.2

or the revitalization of its civic society? I think Javi's answer is going to be, yes,

1:51.1

Javi, thank you for joining me. Pleasure to be here.

1:53.4

Okay, so this is a challenging conversation because we do want to get to the heart of what's

1:57.8

going on in Israeli society right now, which is much deeper than a high level theoretical

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