School Of Hard Knocks Interview | Ep 141
The George Janko Show
George Janko
4.7 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 5 February 2026
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to The George Janko Show. In Episode 141, I sit down with James Dumoulin, founder of School of Hard Knocks, who learns directly from millionaires and billionaires how money is really made. No theory, no hype. Just real lessons, real mindset shifts, and truths most people never hear. If you want an honest look at how wealth is built, this episode is for you.
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Chapters:
00:00 Why Most People Stay Broke
01:18 Starting With Nothing
02:43 Learning From Billionaires Up Close
04:09 The System Isn’t Built for You
05:40 Why Young People Feel Financially Trapped
07:22 Fame, Money, and Empty Wins
09:15 Watching Wealth Change People
11:34 Logan Paul, Circles, and Access
13:06 The Hidden Cost of Status
15:05 Comedy, Humility, and Earning Respect
16:58 When Success Still Feels Hollow
18:44 Faith That Grounded His Ambition
21:05 Why Money Exposes Identity
23:10 Gratitude as a Wealth Strategy
24:47 Confidence Without Needing Approval
27:15 The Moment He Checked Himself
29:52 Choosing Peace Over More Money
30:22 How He Actually Prays and Thinks
31:04 The Habit That Changed His Direction
31:36 Owning Mistakes Before Growth
33:49 Redefining What “Enough” Means
34:20 God’s Timing With Success
35:35 The Difference Between Belief and Obedience
36:13 A Family Wake-Up Call
37:03 Trusting God Through Fear
38:00 Lessons Learned the Hard Way
40:47 Hearing God Over Opportunity
42:21 Why Discipline Beats Motivation
42:42 New Faith, New Struggles
58:13 Self-Control, Money, and Forgiveness
01:05:36 Gratitude After Real Success
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Now, are all the traitors present? |
| 0:02.5 | Let's get started, shall we? |
| 0:04.5 | From rags to riches. |
| 0:05.8 | I'm so sick of this. |
| 0:07.0 | Working like a dog and being treated worse. |
| 0:09.1 | Yorkshire to New York. |
| 0:10.7 | Poor climbers, you and me. |
| 0:12.4 | A life dedicated to revenge. |
| 0:14.4 | Let's make this an occasion to remember. |
| 0:16.9 | A woman of substance on Channel 4. |
| 0:19.1 | Stream now. |
| 0:19.8 | And we're living in a world where people are in debt or over leveraging themselves. Well, I got another saying for you. You ready for it? Stay small enough, long enough, and you'll be big enough soon enough. And you're everywhere, bro. You're tapping on all these billionaire shoulders. Well, you get to a certain point, and then they start to come to you. but I'm more motivated now than ever to keep on creating content, to keep on growing. |
| 0:39.6 | This is like the craziest form of like free marketing that I think has ever been invented. If a bird lands on a branch, does the bird trust the branch or does it trust its wings? And the clue. I've seen many birds land on branches, but what I've never seen is the branch break and the bird fall and die. |
| 0:55.2 | Trust your weeks. |
| 1:10.6 | What's up, guys, welcome back. |
| 1:11.9 | Today's episode is a special one, especially if you are interested in growing your business |
| 1:16.9 | or maybe even learning about business. |
| 1:18.8 | James from the School of Hard Knocks sat with me today and not only spoke very fast, |
| 1:24.2 | but every single word was meaningful and it was jam-packed with a lot of wisdom. This guy travels the world and learns from the greatest billionaires and millionaires around the world. And today he wants to share all of the fun things that he's learned. So sit back, relax, and don't forget to subscribe and enjoy today's episode. Can I say something before we get started? Do you have the most innocent demeanor I've ever experienced? Have you got this before? I've gotten, you know, somebody told me recently, I was just with the former CEO of 7-Eleven and Blockbuster. He, I guess, coined the term for me, relentless positivity. So I guess that's kind of in mind. You're radiating. You're radiating. Before we get into this episode, I want the viewers to understand who's James, where's he come from? You got the school of hard knocks. And you're everywhere, bro. You're tapping on all these billionaire shoulders. How do you find these people, bro? There's, there's like, are you a spy or do you like have people that are like on calls? Yeah. Well, you get to a certain point and then they start to come to you. You know, one of my favorite things ever is, and I live by this is credibility kills all bad attitudes. And I learned that because, you know, a lot of the billionaires that I interview now, I mean, a year ago, some pretty popular ones, it was a rejection or it was a no or they wouldn't even get back to us. But then, you know, when the first, |
| 2:34.7 | I mean, first billionaire I ever did was in 2022, we did Mark Cuban and I cold approached him. And then like |
| 2:41.7 | the first like really big celebrity we did was Tom Cruise. And it was actually his idea to do the |
| 2:46.1 | interview though. So Paramount had reached out to us on his behalf before he had a movie that had come out. And I guess he had been seen our content for some while and ended up having them reach out. And we set that up. And once we kind of did that Tom Cruise interview, then a lot of the big ones started to fall. And a lot of the people that at one point were kind of, you know, not wanting to do it. Hey. They wanted to be too cool for school. |
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