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Schelling Point: Cooperating Without Communicating

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Naval Ravikant

Business, Technology

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2019

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Summary

People who can't communicate can cooperate by anticipating the other person's actions.

Use social norms to cooperate when you can't communicate 0:00

You can find Schelling points in business, art and politics 1:14

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0:00.0

Let's talk about the shelling point.

0:02.0

It's a game theory concept made famous by Thomas Shelling in the book called Strategy of Conflict,

0:07.0

which I do recommend reading.

0:08.5

It's about multiplayer games where other people are responding based on what they think your responses.

0:14.5

What he came up with was the mathematical formalization of how do you get people who cannot communicate with each other to coordinate.

0:22.5

Suppose that I want to meet with you, but I don't tell you where and I don't tell you when.

0:28.5

We both want to meet, but we cannot communicate any more information to each other.

0:32.5

That would sound like an impossible problem to solve. We're done. We can't do it.

0:36.0

Not quite.

0:37.0

Because I know that you're a rational person and smart and educated and you know I'm a rational person who's smart,

0:43.0

we're going to start thinking if we have to pick an arbitrary date, we're probably going to pick New Year's.

0:48.0

And what time, midnight or 12 o'clock 1 a.m.

0:51.0

And where would we meet? What is a big meeting point?

0:53.5

Well, if we're Americans, it's probably in New York City. It's the most important city.

0:57.5

And where in New York City would we meet at midnight, probably Grand Central Station under the clock.

1:03.0

Maybe you end up at the Empire State Building, but not likely.

1:06.5

You can just use social norms to converge onto a shelling point.

1:10.0

There are many times in many games where you can look at the game itself, whether it's business or art or politics.

1:16.0

And you can find the convergent shelling point within the context of that game.

1:20.0

You can cooperate with the other person.

1:22.0

Here's a simple example. Let's suppose that you have two companies that are competing heavily with each other and they hold an oligopoly.

1:28.5

Let's say that they're competing right now and the price fluctuates between 8 bucks and 12 bucks for whatever the service is.

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