SchadenFriday: Cabinet Crashouts
What Next | Daily News and Analysis
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🗓️ 24 April 2026
⏱️ 7 minutes
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Summary
The Trump administration is, let’s say, experiencing a bit of turnover this spring. Secretary of Labor Lori Chavez-DeRemer is out and Kash Patel has reached the “embroiled in scandal and suing the press” zone.
Guest: Jeet Heer, national affairs correspondent for The Nation.
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| 0:00.0 | Happy Friday Slatsters. Welcome back to another edition of Shadden Friday. My prester |
| 0:08.2 | Elena came up with this term for this segment, that it is our series where we find the fun |
| 0:13.4 | in the fundamental breakdown of democracy. I like that. So I feel like I'm going to use it |
| 0:18.8 | like every week. And of course, this is for Slate Plus members exclusively. So welcome in, have a seat, stay a while. I got to say, this week has been weird. All the weeks are weird. But this week is particularly weird because we have a war in Iran that's on this like simmer, like bizarre pause situation. |
| 0:39.1 | And then you've got Donald Trump's approval ratings plummeting. |
| 0:42.5 | And while all this is happening, things are not looking great for the president's cabinet. |
| 0:47.1 | Like really not at all. |
| 0:49.5 | You've got President Trump's labor secretary who decided to call it a day after she was mired down |
| 0:54.4 | in many scandals and pictures of her like blowing out birthday cake candles in the office. |
| 0:59.5 | Very strange. |
| 1:01.2 | And then there was a spicy article in the Atlantic that had a lot of people thinking |
| 1:04.6 | Cash Patel at the FBI might follow her out the door. |
| 1:08.6 | Here to talk about all of this with me is Jeet here from the nation. Hey, |
| 1:12.9 | Jeet. Hi. How you doing? Good, good. Great to be on the program. So you are Canadian, |
| 1:19.6 | which means that maybe you can laugh a little harder at all of our scandals. Yeah, I know. It's |
| 1:26.5 | actually been a very interesting experience being a Canadian writer about American |
| 1:30.4 | politics. |
| 1:31.3 | I like to think that it gives me a little bit of distance. |
| 1:34.1 | You know the old saying comedy is pain plus time? |
| 1:38.0 | So I like to think like physical distance provides the time. |
| 1:42.3 | So I think I'm well suited to this episode. Yeah, yeah. You can just have enough |
| 1:46.4 | remove. Yeah. You can, yeah, savor it a little bit more. Okay, I want to start out with |
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