It was the man on a mission.

It was founders that chose good quests that pushed civilization forward.

And all of them, all of them were heretics before they were celebrated as heroes.

Last September, Palantir's chief technology officer, Shamsanker, spoke at what's

known as NatCon, the National Conservatism Conference. There were speakers from the Trump

administration, as well as people like Christian nationalist pastor, Doug Wilson, and people

like Sankar, tech people. Sankar gave his speech, but he also got into it

with a fellow guest, Jeffrey Miller, the evolutionary psychologist. It was after a panel about

AI. And basically, Miller was telling Sankar that the AI industry is globalist, secular, liberal, feminized transhumanists.

That's Kira Butler, a national correspondent at Mother Jones.

He said they explicitly want mass unemployment.

They plan for UBI-based communism.

They view the human species as a biological bootloader for artificial superintelligence. So these were very strong words that Miller was using

to characterize AI. And this tension ran through the conference.

On the one side, you had this camp of people who were more of like the traditional religious, fundamentalist Christians who saw AI as being highly suspect, perhaps even dangerous, maybe even a demon or the

Antichrist.

And on the other, you had this Silicon Valley adjacent kind of techno-optimist group of people who saw AI not only as okay, but as a moral imperative.

Two groups who have put their faith in Trump, but are now regarding each other with suspicion.

This is a divide within the MAGA coalition that is only getting wider, this divide between

Christians who believe that technology is something to be feared, and if not feared, then at least, you know, highly regulated.

And those that believe that technology in AI are the only path forward and the only way to promote human flourishing.

Today on the show, the great Maga Schism over AI.

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