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##SCALAREPORT: PRC culture of knock-offs and bootlegs may inform Deepseek claims. Chris Riegel CEO, Scala.com @Stratacache.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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##SCALAREPORT: PRC culture of knock-offs and bootlegs may inform Deepseek claims.  Chris Riegel CEO, Scala.com @Stratacache.
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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world, the Scholar Report with CEO Chris Wrigal of Scala.com,

0:09.7

transforming the retail space with digital signage with business on all the major continents,

0:14.3

especially Asia. We address Asia immediately because of the excitement over a lab in China called Deepseek that proposes to do

0:24.7

the same work of the best AI companies at a much lower cost even faster.

0:31.2

However, Chris, a very good day to you.

0:33.5

I remember vividly an anecdote you told me some years ago,

0:37.7

about an underground wholesale market in Shanghai,

0:43.5

or at the edge of Shanghai,

0:44.7

or somewhere integrated into the city.

0:46.5

I've never been there.

0:47.9

And everything in the market, a wide open space is what I picture,

0:51.6

sort of a Costco or a Walmarts.

0:56.4

Everything in the market reflects luxury goods, the sort of thing that you buy from Europe routinely, or America. But it's all

1:03.1

understood to be knockoffs. Everything is intellectual property ripped off, an imitation. And the

1:09.1

shopping there is ferocious.

1:16.5

I remember that every time we come up with something that asserts that it's China being,

1:22.2

breaking through to the next level because of their hard work and their diligence,

1:23.9

they are the future.

1:33.7

And Deep Seek now has mitigation in the news that the preparation for the claim of a much lower cost and faster AI skipped out a couple of details such as using OpenJet that's available

1:43.8

for training somewhere in the steps that they prepare

1:46.6

their final run through that they say cost little more than $5 million.

1:51.3

Now that's all a complicated way of saying.

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