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The Jayson Gaddis Podcast

SC 15 - Ayahuasca & Relationships - Geoff Hanzlik and Richard Furr

The Jayson Gaddis Podcast

Jayson Gaddis

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.7999 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2015

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Can plant medicine such as Ayahuasca help our marriages? In this episode I interview two very experienced guests who have both done over 500 ceremonies with this sacred medicine. We dive deep into this question, highlighting Ayahuasca’s strengths as a healing modality and where this medicine may fall short when it comes to interpersonal relationships.

SHOWNOTES:

  • Jayson’s early Ayahuasca experiences [2:30]
  • Intro to Geoff Hanzlik [4:50]
  • Intro to Richard Furr [5:45]
  • Beginning of interview [6:50]
  • Geoff shares how early depression lead him to Ayahuasca [8:40]
  • Richard shares how he entered the Ayahuasca path [11:35]
  • What exactly is Ayahuasca? [14:20]
  • Potential dangers and downsides of Ayahuasca [17:35]
  • Can this medicine “make you more sensitive”? [22:45]
  • Is group processing needed before and after ceremonies?  [25:00]
  • Bringing therapy into the conversation [26:00]
  • The greatest thing the medicine taught Jayson [28:50]
  • Does Ayahuasca help with our intimate relationships? [30:55]
  • How would one use Ayahuasca to help their relationship life? [39:30]
  • Richard helps those struggling to integrate their Ayahuasca experience [44:15]
  • Inner depth healing vs. developing relational skills – [48:00]
  • Ayahuasca is not a ‘quick fix’ [51:10]
  • “This isn’t a ‘dabblers’ path” [54:50]
  • Richard shares the dangers of pushing Ayahuasca on others [1:00:00]
  • How are relational dynamics addressed in spiritual communities? [1:05:00]

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's up?

0:05.7

up relationship geeks and freaks.

0:08.2

Welcome back to the smart couple, where we do our best to use any means possible from a heart centered place to get the relationships we want.

0:26.0

And a lot of people that are into personal development and into personal growth and spiritual growth are going

0:38.4

to appreciate this episode because this episode is using really unconventional methods to get at our relationship issues and to see if it can help us.

0:52.0

So when you get into relationship challenges, what do you do? Most of you go to therapy,

0:58.0

counseling, read a book, or listen to a podcast or a blog,

1:03.0

blog, right?

1:04.0

Not as many people will stay up all night drinking a sacred plant medicine from the Amazon and then purging and being somewhat miserable half the

1:19.2

night or on the other side experiencing the utter magnificence of who you are and connected to everything that is.

1:27.0

Most people won't take that route, right, when you're in relationship pain, and that's understandable.

1:36.0

So I really years and years ago now,

1:50.1

because I am a seeker, a truth seeker, a seeker of meaning, and I really care about what's actually going on in this world and what the hell this is all for.

1:57.0

I've been really on a quest much of my life to find answers and I will use hallucinogenics and other substances, holotropic breath

2:10.4

work. I'll use whatever it takes to find answers really about myself and how I relate and

2:17.4

interact with the world out there and how I feel separate sometimes and how yet when I tap into these mystical experiences I feel less separate and more connected.

2:29.0

So when I found Iowasca finally, I thought it was the Holy Grail and I was really, I just dove in at first for probably two years straight and then a little longer than that as I started to

2:46.0

taper off and get a little more mature in myself and more serious in other parts of my

2:52.1

life but for me it was a real open in other parts of my life.

2:53.0

But for me, it was a real opening,

2:55.0

and it tapped me into my brilliance.

2:57.0

It also tapped me into the biggest, darkest, ugliest parts of myself

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