Welcome to the Conversations That Matter podcast. I'm your host, John Harris.

I wanted to do a debrief on the Southern Baptist Convention Meeting in Orlando, Florida.

And I have my brother with me, David. He was a messenger to the convention this year.

And it's the day after everything's happened.

And between the two of us, we were at the entire convention because I arrived yesterday afternoon,

and I got to see the last little bit of it

with the resolutions and the report from NAM and the transfer of the former president, Clint

Presley, to Willie Rice, the new president of the convention.

And you were there pretty much for all the important stuff.

So I'm going to let David talk about a little bit what he, and we'll give our impressions of the meeting, how it went,

and maybe what could go better or worse for next year,

some ideas.

So why don't you start, this was your first year

as a messenger there, and you are a member

of a Southern Baptist Church.

What surprised you about the convention?

Did anything catch you out guard that you thought?

You had one way in your head and it wasn't that way?

I mean, I didn't really, like we didn't grow up Southern Baptist.

So, I mean, we have Southern Baptist in our family if you go back of ways,

but we grew up more in the Masters IFCA world. So I had never

been to anything that big. So I feel like the first thing when I walked into the, I guess

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