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Think Biblically: Conversations on Faith & Culture

Saying Goodbye to Jesus

Think Biblically: Conversations on Faith & Culture

Talbot School of Theology at Biola University / Sean McDowell & Scott Rae

Christian, Talbot, Church, Culture, Biola, Think Biblically, Christianity, Sean Mcdowell, Scott Rae, Religion & Spirituality

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Why would a megachurch pastor leave his faith? What questions are raised through his journey that we need to address, and how can we better love people who deconstruct and ultimately deconvert? In this episode, Sean and Scott discuss a book called Goodbye Jesus by former megachurch pastor, now Humanist, Tim Sledge. This episode is also available as a video on Biola's YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/y5W6X3nYhjkRead a transcript of this episode at: https://www.biola.edu/blogs/think-biblically...

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0:00.0

Why would a mega church pastor leave his faith?

0:03.2

And what can we learn from a deconversion story

0:06.0

about how to better love people around us who are doubting their faith

0:10.0

or who have deconverted?

0:12.0

Today we're going to look at a book from 2018.

0:14.8

It's called Goodbye Jesus, and it's from a former

0:18.5

Make a Church pastor by the name of Tim Sledge.

0:22.3

Scott, this is going to be an interesting conversation. This is a huge book. It's

0:26.0

over 400 pages. You and I read it all the way through. I'm curious as we start. When you approach a book that you know is written by somebody who has left the faith

0:37.0

How does that shape the way you approach a book like this? Yeah, this I found, the whole story that Tim tells of his journey from, you know, being raised in a Christian home to sensing a call to the pastorate and then being very

0:56.1

successful in the Southern Baptist Church in my hometown where I grew up in Houston to just sort of gradually becoming more and more

1:06.8

disillusioned and eventually giving up not only giving up his full-time

1:12.4

pastorate but also giving up his full-time faith.

1:17.9

I found it incredibly sad because it was a perfect storm of factors I think that contributed to his ending up where he did,

1:30.0

which we'll get into more of that as the discussion goes along.

1:33.0

The way I approach this from the start

1:35.9

is to say, first of all, how can I empathize

1:40.1

with this person's story?

1:42.2

Because there's much more to the story than somebody just losing their faith.

1:47.0

That's right.

1:48.0

And what are the factors that contributed to that?

1:52.0

Was it an intellectual thing? Was it primarily the way he was

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