The following podcast contains explicit language.

Hey, this is the moment, I'm Brian Koppelman.

Thanks for listening.

This is a super special treat for me because anytime I get to have a friend in here, it's a special treat.

But more than that, because it's Savannah Guthrie, one of the foremost journalists in our country, host of the Today Show, and

Savannah, thanks for being here.

It's such a pleasure to be here.

You should have said, and fan of Brian Koppelman.

I'm a huge fan, so I'm excited to be on your show.

Isn't that so sweet of you to say and also like so great journalistic today show host

technique?

No, well it happens to be true too. Yes. today's technique. Oh, no.

Well, it happens to be true, too.

Yes, no, I know.

No, we are.

Like in the interest of all total full disclosure, Savannah's husband, Mike and I have been friends since college.

You are the person who told me that Mike was once known as

Money Mike.

Yeah, because he was a huge hip-hop fan in college

and then nobody knew and even you didn't know. I didn't when you told me that I was

shocked because if you know Mike the last thing you think is hip-hop. Well he was like chief of

staff for Al Gore and he's this hugely successful guy at the intersection of politics and media and

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