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Savage Lovecast

Savage Love Episode 494

Savage Lovecast

Dan Savage

Relationships, Society & Culture, Sexuality, Health & Fitness

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2016

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

A woman loves sexting with strangers she meets online. But she has no desire to meet in person. How and when should she let her fellas know this about her? What happens when homophobic parents never come around? Dan speaks with writer Aaron Hartzler, author of “Rapture Practice,” about coming out to intractable family.  On the Magnum, Dan chats with Peggy Orenstein, author of “Cinderella Ate My Daughter” and “Girls and Sex: Navigating the Complicated New Landscape” about the distorted expectations women face the in the bedroom. 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Audible. Get a free 30-day trial at This episode is also brought to you by - the wine club that helps you to choose wine that suits your taste and ships it right to your door. For 50% off your first order, go to ClubW.com/savage.    Today’s episode is also brought to you by , the delivery service that sends you fresh ingredients and incredible recipes so you can make fabulous meals at home. Check out this week’s menu and get your first 2 meals free by going to .

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0:00.0

You're listening to the micro version of the Savage Lovecast, www.com.

0:06.4

If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony,

0:16.0

while there's nothing you can't ask on the Savage Lovecast.

0:24.6

So last January 22nd, around January 22nd earlier this year, there might have been, you might have noticed straight people, straight people listening.

0:32.1

You might have noticed that your marriages, your traditional marriages, your opposite sex marriages felt a little more secure,

0:38.4

a little more protected, a little stronger. You were less likely late in January of this year

0:44.2

to divorce your spouse or abandon your children because in Australia, a gay man and his husband

0:52.5

were on their honeymoon and one of them died.

0:55.2

And it became a big problem because Australia doesn't recognize same-sex marriage and refuse to issue a death certificate to the partner of the deceased man, to the grieving husband of the deceased man, listing him as the next of kin.

1:10.5

So all the funeral arrangements were screwed up and put on hold and repatriating the body was a huge fucking nightmare for this guy for Marco Bomer Rizzi, whose husband, David, Bulmer Rizzi, had died in an accident in Australia on their honeymoon.

1:25.2

And this is what we're told needs to happen happen that same-sex couples, our relationship shouldn't

1:30.2

be recognized because that threatens traditional marriage.

1:33.1

And we need to protect traditional marriage from same-sex couples getting married to and

1:38.9

somehow persecuting or refusing to recognize the relationships or marriages of the same-sex

1:43.2

couples make straight people's marriages stronger and more everlasting somehow.

1:49.7

I'm not sure how that magic works exactly, but we have it on papal authority and an American

1:55.1

family association authority, that that is how it works.

1:58.4

Shit on same-sex couples, attack people in same-sex relationships, undermine their

2:03.8

– refuse to recognize their relationships, and by some magic transitive power, opposite-sex

2:11.2

relationships are healthier and stronger, and those marriages are – your marriages are more secure.

2:16.2

So this couple, same-sex couple, persecuted at the

2:18.9

worst moment in their lives. As John Corvino says, the most important incidents of marriage,

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