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Savage Lovecast

Savage Love Episode 283

Savage Lovecast

Dan Savage

Relationships, Sexuality, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2012

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

When lesbians flirt: What is a red-blooded lad to think when his lesbian pal makes goo-goo eyes at him?  Are parents today too sex-positive? Dan and sex educator Amy Lang talk about water sports among 3-year-olds and a bad place to put Legos.  And more.  206-201-2720 This podcast is brought to you by . Go buy something and be sure to enter GGG2012 at checkout.  This episode is brought to you by Audible. Download a free audio book of your choice today at    Comment on this episode at   Check out Anna Pulley: And Amy Lang:

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0:00.0

You're listening to a Stranger podcast, www.com.

0:05.7

If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony,

0:16.0

while there's nothing you can't ask on the savage lovecasts. Before we give to this show, a lot of people are writing, sending emails, calling me in the last few days to ask me what I think of the verdict in the Rutgers case, the verdict that came down last Friday, where Darren Ravi was found guilty, basically on all charges, including bias crimes, for his actions that some people say led to or contributed to or preceded Tyler Clemente's suicide.

0:51.7

Tyler Clemente was the 18-year-old Rutgers student who threw himself

0:54.8

off the George Washington Bridge in September of 2010 shortly after Terry and I started the

1:00.1

It Gets Better Project. And in the wake of his private sexual encounter with another person

1:08.2

being streamed over the internet by his roommate, Robbie.

1:11.6

And be wondering what I think.

1:13.0

And I've kind of kept my counsel and kept my mouth shut in the run-up to the verdict

1:19.1

because I didn't want it to seem like the It Gets Better Project was weighing in or

1:25.7

bang for blood or wanting to change anyone's

1:29.6

minds or change anyone's opinions. But I believe, and as I wrote shortly after Tyler Clemente's

1:37.3

suicide and after Ravi and his friend, Molly Way, were arrested, that it seemed to me to be an unseemly rush to pin all

1:48.5

responsibility and all blame for Tyler Clemente's suicide on these two idiotic teenagers who did

1:54.8

something foolish and cruel but could not have known the consequences of their actions. And to me, it seemed like,

2:04.5

and still does, post-verdict, seems like a massive attempt to shift all blame onto the shoulders

2:12.0

of this one foolish teenager, 18 years old, fresh out of high school, did something stupid. And I can't

2:21.7

imagine, I don't believe that just that single action caused, prompted Tyler Clemente to take

2:29.6

his life. There can be a trigger. Maybe it was a trigger, But other people, institutions, individuals, churches, set Tyler Clemente up. Tyler Clemente was failed by his faith, failed by teachers, failed by institutions, may have been bullied all his life,

2:52.8

and this was the last straw. And I just think that it's unfortunate, that society feels it must

3:01.9

sacrifice this other young person's life on an altar of retribution, really in a sense to wash itself clean of the sins, of the failures that contributed, that many people in institutions contributed to setting Tyler Clemente up like this.

3:20.8

That's really all I want to say.

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