Saul Kassin (psychologist on false confessions)

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

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4.6 • 68.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2022

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Saul Kassin (Duped: Why Innocent People Confess) is a professor and psychologist. Saul joins the Armchair Expert to discuss why some people give false confessions in criminal investigations, what tactics law enforcement use in interrogations, and how the language of memory and inference differ. Saul and Dax talk about why some investigators object to recording the questioning of suspects, why some people offer confessions in high-profile cases, and what the optics of silence often says to the public. Saul explains why the Innocence Project only gets involved with cases with DNA evidence, how the threat of punishment can affect the outcomes of learning, and why some people are afraid to confront authority. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0	Welcome, welcome, welcome to armchair expert, experts on expert, I'm Dan Kassen. I'm joined by Saul
0:05.8	Podman.
0:06.8	Hello.
0:08.8	Today we have Saul Kassen on and he is a psychologist and a professor. He is the world's leading expert on false
0:16.2	confessions. He has a new book that we talk about a lot called Dooped, why innocent people confess
0:22.2	and why we believe their confessions. This is
0:25.4	maddening. Yeah it's a doozy. It's heartbreaking but also encouraging that
0:32.2	there are people working on this.
0:34.0	It's very informative.
0:35.0	I think it's a really important episode.
0:37.0	It is, yeah.
0:38.0	I think you'll come into this thinking one thing
0:40.0	and leave radically altered.
0:42.0	Yeah. Please enjoy Saul Kassen.
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0:59.0	He's an option for.
1:07.0	how are you sure that's good how I'm sure it's good
1:11.0	he's a chance for How are you sir? It's good to meet you. I'm Dax, this is Monica.
1:17.0	Hi, hi, and you sit together. It sounds like on your podcast that you're sitting together.
1:22.0	You know, we didn't used to sit together.
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