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Hello and welcome to The Devil Within, season four, Satan's Shadow, bonus episode one.

So we're doing the weekly episodes a little bit differently for the run of this season.

Rather than two new episodes a week, what I'm going to be doing is running the main episode of the season and then followed by episodes like this, where I'm going to be in conversation with some of my favorite true true crime hosts who were gracious enough to agree to listen to the episode and then come and talk to me about it.

And one of my favorite people in the world, I'm very lucky to be joining us today.

Former colleague, current friend and future colleague and host of the wonderful podcast,

Death by Southwest, Margo Carmichael, joining us.

Margo, thank you.

Thank you.

What a lovely and very professional intro that was.

That's how I do shit, okay? I know. I know. Listening to your podcast, listening to episode one,

I was like, God damn it, Brandon, like he did it again. This is so good that I want to change

the way that I do my entire podcast because my podcast

is very different. It's super like laid back and I there's, you know, it's not scripted.

There's, I'm just going off the cuff, which is comfortable for me. But hearing this, it was so

engaging and like, did you do the audio editing and the music for this yeah i slowly

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