Hello and welcome to the Slow Home Podcast. This is the podcast for anyone who's looking to find ways to slow down and simplify in a world that likes to make us do the opposite most of the time. My name is Brooke McCallory. And I'm Ben McCallory.

Welcome. Thank you for joining us.

In this episode, you speak to someone that you've been wanting to speak to for quite a while.

It's true. Yes, I have sent many an email over the past 12 months to my guest today to see if she could be on the show.

A highly popular speaker, personality, author person in general.

And it's taken a bit of time to get to this point.

But man, it was worth a wait.

Such a good conversation.

And I know that you have been such a big fan of this guest for quite a while.

Yeah, I have. I have. And I mean, I talk about it a bit more in the blog

post for today's episode, but it's not only what she talks about, but it's also the way she does it.

You know, it's quite rare, I think, to find someone who, who writes or speaks on a topic,

particularly a topic that people don't necessarily want to hear

about, but need to know about. And she does it with clarity, but she also does it with courage.

I mean, I don't want to overstate it, but I really do think she does, because often when people

are faced with information or an opinion that they don't want to know about, even if it is

helpful, you know, we get defensive.

So she's faced quite a bit of that and through it all has just maintained a strong line and also evolved and progressed because, I mean, so the guests that I'm talking about.

Oh, stop. Don't, you're not going to say their name, are you? That's outrageous.

It is outrageous. No, I get to sit down and talk to Sarah Wilson in

today's episode. And Sarah kind of rose to prominence, I guess, talking about sugar. She really

pioneered the I quit sugar program in Australia. I mean, she actually did found the I quit

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