I mean, there are many parts of the education system that I think are worthy of redesign.

The particular example that you're giving of how do you help perhaps more student in this

example from Tina, I think there's a question there about like how do you help people kind of

find the thing that they is really their life's calling and how do you help people

you know perhaps not prematurely settle on something but leave room for more exploration.

So one one idea is like what if you actually had a you know a portion of your education that

was really well designed purpose-filled for that exploration process maybe that would look like

a whole bunch of two or three-week classes right maybe that would look like something much more

experiential maybe instead of doing you know sort of research and group projects more towards

the end of your college career you would do those at the beginning to really try to experience

like what's it like to be a doctor what's it like to be a biologist what's it like to actually

practice as a designer or as a you know in business.

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Sir welcome to the unmistakable creative thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

Thanks so much Sreeni it's great to be here.

Yeah it is my pleasure to have you here so I found out about your work by way of your

publicist you have a new book out called Creative Acts for Curious people with all of which we

will get into which is really kind of very much in line with the content of the show.

But before we do that I wanted to start asking you who was one of the most influential teachers

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