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Sarah Russell, General Manager: Bellwether: The first prediction engine for the Earth and everything on it (349)

InsTech - insurance & innovation with Matthew Grant

InsTech

Entrepreneurship, Investing, Business

4.850 Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

What does it take to build a wildfire prediction model that not only outperforms physics-based approaches but also fits seamlessly into underwriting? In this episode, Matthew Grant is joined by Sarah Russell, General Manager at Bellwether – a climate-focused moonshot from Google X – to explore why wildfires are the ideal proving ground for next-generation insurance analytics.  This isn’t, however, just another conversation about AI potential. Sarah explains why wildfire risk fits machine learning better than traditional methods, how Bellwether is helping insurers find overlooked low-risk zones and why explainability, not black-box brilliance, is key to adoption. She also shares what’s next – from agentic AI to Severe Convective Storm models – and what the industry needs to be ready for. Key Talking Points: Wildfires as a moonshot – why Bellwether started with wildfire risk to build a prediction engine for the Earth From physics to AI – how machine learning outperforms traditional models in dynamic, data-heavy environments Spotting opportunity, not just risk – how Bellwether identifies low-risk zones that other models overlook Real-time data, real underwriting gains – delivering a 10% loss ratio improvement for a Lloyd’s carrier Beyond black boxes – using explainable AI to justify counterintuitive predictions and build trust The end of the ‘yak shave’ – how agents and large models will reshape insurance workflows and tech stacks From geospatial to generative – where Bellwether is heading next with severe convective storm modelling Working with the experts – why collaboration with scientists and government agencies remains critical If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Matthew Grant on LinkedIn. You can also contact Sarah Russell on LinkedIn to start a conversation! Sign up to the InsTech newsletter for a fresh view on the world every Wednesday morning. Continuing Professional Development This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme. By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives: List the key environmental and structural factors that contribute to low wildfire risk Define the role of large models and their ability to handle uncertainty in climate risk assessment Identify the advantages of using AI to uncover underappreciated low-risk zones in high-exposure regions If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 349 page of the InsTech website or email [email protected] to let us know you have listened to this podcast. To help us measure the impact of the learning, we would be grateful if you would take a minute to complete a quick feedback survey.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome, all welcome back to the InSTech podcast.

0:11.4

Zoya podcast producer here.

0:13.6

This week on the podcast, we have Sarah Russell from Bellwether, part of Google X.

0:18.8

Sarah spoke earlier at our Exponential exponential risk conference and we actually met her last

0:23.5

year at our New York event. In SEC is returning to New York this year and we brought back Sarah to speak

0:30.8

more on wildfires on the podcast. So Matthew, what key insights do you want our listener to take away from this week's episode?

0:38.8

There's so much in this one, Zoya.

0:40.7

I mean, I think one thing people often wonder about is Google.

0:44.0

You mentioned Google X, the bellwether is part of Google still, has got access to so much information.

0:49.8

What are they doing with it?

0:50.9

How are they using it?

0:52.0

And then the other one is when people think about using analytics

0:55.1

to look at underwriting or make underwriting decisions,

0:59.2

the temptation is to find the areas that people shouldn't underwrite.

1:03.3

But of course, they can also be used to find areas that people might be overestimating the risk from.

1:09.8

And therefore, ultimately everybody wins because people that are

1:13.5

looking to get insurance protection can find organizations and analytics that actually identify

1:19.1

where they've taken mitigation measures. We talk a bit about what those are for wildfire and can be

1:24.8

offered insurance that reflects what they've done. So I think it's a really intriguing

1:28.0

angle for that. And then let me talk a little bit about, you know, what else is going to be

1:31.6

happening. Sarah gives her predictions for the year ahead, which I am going to hold her accountable

1:37.4

for. So I'm happy in his time to see if she was right. Yeah, no, those were quite poignant.

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