There's nothing more unattractive than a guy who like cares about his abs.

Somehow that is the most true statement I've ever heard.

It is another episode of Hell. I'm in it. Welcome. Join me in the heat.

I'm your host, Hannah Burner, and we have the most perfect guest for Burning and Hell.

I've kind of been too nervous to ask her to come because I was like she's made to be on this

podcast and I was getting nervous and putting it on a pedestal. But here we are. We are with

Sarah Nicole Landry, aka the Birds Papaya. She is a divorced and remarried mom of four.

And let me just say new borns to teens. This isn't like a bunch of teens that are out like at the park

chillin by themselves. She like has someone sucking her teeth right now. The hormones in that household

must be unbelievable. She lives in Ontario, Canada. So we're going to learn about Canada today.

We're very excited. We love maple syrup. But the big deal. She has almost two million followers

on Instagram. Who knows other places. But she uses it in a very powerful way. She battles perfectionism.

Disordered eating. Body shame. The list goes on. And she's a body confidence advocate, a speaker,

a writer, occasional model, weekly podcast host of the Papaya pod that I just was on. You have to listen.

I got a little dark as you guys know I do. And she was named by today's parents, one of the most

influential parents. So like maybe I will chill a dot me today. Anyway, Sarah, welcome to hell.

Thank you. And you know what made me one of the top influential parents was my willingness to go

there because I shared that I got shingles on my vagina last year. So that's what they

that's what they used as like she's a great parent. She's willing to go there on all the things

including shingles on her vagina. Like it was amazing. My dad was like wow, never been more proud.

But shingles on your vagina does sound like hell and teaches all of us when you're going through

hell. Good things happen from it. Like being recognized as an influential shingle parent.

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