This is one of the reason that Trump's numbers are starting to fall and where the objective reality kicks in is that people know that the tariffs are Trumps.

People know that the Iran war is Trumps. They don't think it's Congress. They don't think it's somebody else.

They know Trump is doing it, that he made the call to do it and that it is raising their prices. And that is what they are mad about.

Hi there, everyone.

This week's guest, Tadme at Hello.

She's the emotional and intellectual lifeline

to the pro-democracy movement

for any and every ex-Republican

looking to migrate or land on the right side of history.

She's also the most important human

for any Democratic politician to know

and learn from if that politician wants to build an enduring and winning coalition. She's a publisher

of the bulwark, the author of a new book coming in September, How to Eat an Elephant, one voter at a

time. She hosts the podcast, the focus group and the illegal news.

She is my spirit animal.

This is the Best People podcast.

And this is Sarah Longwell.

I'm so happy you're here.

I'm so happy to be here.

Thank you.

And thank you for having read the book.

You know, we can't get enough of what you know about what voters think. And I feel like I've

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