We were in Japan walking into a bilateral meeting with Prime Minister Abe and the president who has every reason to be focused on the meeting in front of him and not concerned about, you know, my feelings or where I am stops and says, hold on.

He turns, he looks me straight in the eye and he said, Sarah, the only reason they come after you is because you're good at your job.

The job of a White House press secretary tends to be a revolving door of appointees. Bill Clinton had five, George W. Bush had four, Barack Obama had three, and President Trump is now on his fifth, if you count Anthony Scaramucci. While Scaramucci was only there for 11 days, and his predecessor, Sean Spicer, was there for 182 days,

the president found his stride with Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who held the job just shy of two years.

Sarah joined the White House as deputy press secretary, which put her in many circumstances,

filling in for Sean Spicer, including during the controversial dismissal of James Comey.

Two months after that, in July 2017, she was made White House Press Secretary. Having been with the president for nearly half of his term,

Sarah worked through a lot of events in the Trump presidency, like the denuclearization meetings

between Kim Jong-un and President Trump, which we'll discuss here. Her new book is Speaking for

Myself, Faith, Freedom, and the Fight of Our Lives inside the Trump White House,

a memoir with, lots of stories and a behind-the-scenes look at working closely with the president.

Today, we'll dive into those stories, plus how Donald Trump and Sarah's father, Mike Huckabee,

former governor and Republican presidential candidate, are different in how they're the same,

if we should remove cameras from White House press briefings altogether, and the

challenges the president's unpolished style often creates for a press secretary.

Hey, hey, and welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special. Just a reminder, we'll be doing some bonus questions at the end with Sarah. The only way to get access to that part of the conversation is to become a member. Head on over to Dailywire.com, become a member. You'll have access to all of the full conversations with every one of our awesome guest. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, thanks so much for joining the show. Yeah, thanks so much for having me. It's good to be with you. So why don't we begin with what's happening next? Since that was the first question I asked you off the air, so there was a lot of speculation when you left the Trump administration that you'd be running for governor of Arkansas. So that's a thing, correct? I definitely very serious about it right now. My focus is 20-20.

I want to help the president get re-elected. I'd love to make sure that the Republicans hold the

Senate. I'd love to see us take back the House and never utter the word Speaker Pelosi again.

So I am putting all my energy and focus right now into 2020. After that, I'll make a decision about

2022, but definitely very serious about running. So let's talk about the dynamics of the 2020 race. We'll start with that. Then we'll get into sort of your experiences at the White House and all the rest. You talk about all of this in your book that just came out speaking for myself. So let's talk about the 2020 race. Obviously, one of the big areas of contention is President Trump's personality.

Joe Biden has tried to make this solely and completely about President Trump's personality.

The suggestion is that Joe Biden, of course, is captain empathy, whereas President Trump is mean,

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