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Passion Struck with John R. Miles

Sarah Fay on Pathological: The Dangers of Overidentifying With a Mental Health Diagnosis EP 144

Passion Struck with John R. Miles

John R. Miles

Mental Health, Alternative Health, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 779 Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2022

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Fay discusses her new book Pathological and how, by researching her six misdiagnoses, she concluded that the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) is utterly inaccurate. | Brought to you by Masterworks (https://masterworks.io use code PASSION to start your journey). Sarah Fay (Ph.D., MFA) writes for many publications, including The New York Times, The Atlantic, Time, and The Paris Review. She's the recipient of the Hopwood Award for Literature and grants and fellowships from Yaddo, the Mellon Foundation, and the MacDowell Colony. She's on the faculty at Northwestern University and the founder of Pathological: The Movement. She is the author of the new book Pathological: The True Story of Six Misdiagnoses: https://amzn.to/3McFd7o (Amazon link). -- ► Click here for the entire show notes: https://passionstruck.com/sarah-fay-pathological/  --► Subscribe to My Channel Here: https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnRMiles --► Subscribe to the podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/passion-struck-with-john-r-miles/id1553279283 *Our Patreon Page: https://www.patreon.com/passionstruck. This episode of Passion Struck with John R. Miles is brought to you by Masterworks: * Masterworks - 66% of Billionaires Collect Art, so Why Aren't You? Low Minimums, Simple and Exciting. You Can Use Art as an Alternative Investment to Diversify Your Portfolio—blue-Chip Artwork. Go to https://www.masterworks.io/ and use code passion to start. What I discuss with Sarah Fay: Almost one in five people (47.1 million) in the US have been diagnosed with a mental health condition. That number increased by about 1.5 million from last year. More may follow with a mounting sense of isolation in our fragmented country. But is a mental diagnosis the path to healing or a self-fulfilling prophecy? Sarah suffered from six mental illness diagnoses for almost thirty years, all labeled because of the DSM. She realized the DSM is seriously flawed, even useless, but it's all we have through that process. Time Stamps
  • 0:00 Intro and announcements
  • 2:41 Introducing Sarah Fay
  • 5:07 Why Anorexia and Bipolar illness were defining moments
  • 8:29 Why Pathological is eloquently written through the use of punctuation
  • 11:47 How her mental illness diagnosis impacted Sarah
  • 19:08 Why the DSM is seriously flawed, even useless
  • 29:20 Why the DSM has no scientific validity
  • 35:12 Why do we desperately want an answer and relief from our suffering
  • 38:28 Why chronic loneliness is so rampant in the world today
  • 43:53 Why suffering, grief, and loneliness are part of the human experience
  • 46:00 Why the DSM can't define dysfunction
  • 51:14 How her whole world disappeared because of her diagnoses
  • 56:45 Overcoming withdrawal from psychological drugs
  • 1:00:27 Why when she stopped considering herself sick she no longer was
  • 1:05:27 The Cautionary Tale of the Dangers of Over-Identifying With a Mental Health Diagnosis
  • 1:06:57 Show Wrap Up and Synthesis
Where can you find Sarah Fay * Pathological: The Movement: https://www.pathological.us/ * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahfayauthor/ * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-fay-460570188/ * Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahfayauthor Links * My interview with Susan Cain on her new book "Bittersweet" * My interview with Gretchen Rubin about knowing yourself * My interview with Dr. Michelle Segar on her new book "The Joy Choice" * My most recent solo episode on why you must feel to emotionally heal *My Solo episode on work-life balance: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7AZksXySbYVoMPMuma5DpB?si=_VPv5sn3QBCq2pYVh-LXkg *Solo episode on overcoming burnout: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5keAXxjRs3Q8NKZYWBlPXS?si=N-nf0iQjThSzgsCAutPVPA  *Solo episode on how you stop living in fear: https://passionstruck.com/how-do-you-stop-living-in-fear/     -- Welcome to Passion Struck podcast, a show where you get to join me in exploring the mindset and philosophy of the world's most inspiring everyday heroes to learn their lessons to living intentionally. Passion Struck aspires to speak to the humanity of people in a way that makes them want to live better, be better and impact. * Learn more about me: https://johnrmiles.com. *Stay tuned for my latest project, my upcoming book, which will be published in the summer 2022. FOLLOW JOHN ON THE SOCIALS * Twitter: https://twitter.com/Milesjohnr * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnrmiles.c0m * Medium: https://medium.com/@JohnRMiles​ * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/john_r_miles * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/milesjohn/ * Blog: https://johnrmiles.com/blog/ * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/passion_struck_podcast/ * Gear: https://www.zazzle.com/store/passion_struck/    

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0:00.0

Coming up next on the Passion Struck Podcast.

0:03.1

The point at which the bone heals becomes the strongest part of the bone.

0:07.4

And I just love that. And that's how I feel is that I basically broke every bone in my body

0:12.4

over 30 years. And that I'm so strong because of it. And I do believe people with

0:18.0

mental illness are the strongest people alive. We're treated as weak. But anyone who's gone to

0:22.7

that place or touched that place, you have to be strong to be in that struggle. I mean, you may

0:27.1

look weak, but it's not. It's the opposite. Welcome to Passion Struck. Hi, I'm your host,

0:32.0

John Armiles. And on the show, we decipher the secrets, tips, and guidance of the world's most

0:37.9

inspiring people and turn their wisdom into practical advice for you and those around you.

0:43.7

Our mission is to help you unlock the power of intentionality so that you can become the best

0:50.1

version of yourself. If you're new to the show, I offer advice and answer listener questions on

0:55.6

Fridays. We have long form interviews the rest of the week with guest ranging from astronauts

1:01.2

to authors, CEOs, creators, innovators, scientists, military leaders, visionaries, and athletes.

1:08.8

Now, let's go out there and become Passion Struck. Hello, everyone. And welcome back to episode 144

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of Passion Struck, one of the top ranked health and fitness podcasts in the world. And thank you

1:22.4

to each and every one of you who comes back weekly to listen and learn how to live better,

1:27.7

be better, and impact the world. And in case you missed our interviews from earlier this week and

1:33.1

last week, we had some great ones featuring Trisha Manning, who is a former C-suite executive,

1:39.7

turned performance coach, and author of the book, Lead With Heart, and Leave A Legacy.

1:45.2

Last week's episodes featured Admiral James Stavridas. And we did the official book launch of his

1:52.2

new book, Tarisket All, plus covered his other books, Sailing True North, and 2034. We also had

1:59.2

on my friend and former Navy Fighter pilot, Hegan Gill, who discusses his harrowing ejection

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