Hello, NurdCasters, and welcome to our special debate night edition of the Nurdcast,

where we break down a key moment that we feel summed up the night's debate,

the last one before Iowa Democrats vote on February 3rd.

The candidates largely stayed in their safe zones.

On Tuesday night there were plenty of disagreements on policy, to be sure, on trade, war, health health care a bunch of other issues but by and large the

candidates spent a lot of time explaining and selling their own plans and a lot

less time criticizing others.

Waring.

And here to help us wade through that and pick apart our key moment is senior politics

editor Charlie Mathesian Esquire.

Charlie welcome. He's good to be back. Charlie welcome.

He's good to be back.

All right, so we're going to listen to the clip

and then Charlie and I will dig in.

Here's what we picked this time.

So this section started with the moderator asking Bernie Sanders about why he will vote no on the USMCA trade deal, a NAFTA replacement, even though he's said it contains modest improvements on NAFTA.

Yet you're going to vote against it.

Aren't modest improvements better than no improvements for the farmers and manufacturers who

have been devastated here in Iowa?

The answer is we could do much better than a Trump-led trade deal.

And Sanders said, yeah, I'm opposed to it, we can do much better and this will continue

to hurt jobs. This deal, and I think the proponents of it acknowledge, will result in the continuation of the loss of hundreds of thousands of good-paying jobs as a result of outsourcing. The heart and soul of our

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