Hello and I'm Gaimto Amarcotti and I thank you for joining us.

With me in the studio today, Allison Rudd and James Gerebrandt, and we're delighted that down the line

from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, we're delighted that down the line from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia

we're joined by a man who referee the FAA Cup final, the Champions League final,

the Euro 2016 final, the one with all those weird odd moths or whatever they were on the pitch.

And also, according to Wikipedia, got a tattoo so he would never forget the occasion.

It's the head of refereeing for the Saudi Arabian Football Federation and times columnist Mark Clatenburg

Mark quickly is the is the tattoo story real or can we debunk Wikipedia?

Yeah no it's real.

It was interesting because after the Olympic Games in 2012,

I got a tattoo done then, but I wore long sleeves for years

and nobody knew.

And it was only when me tattoo has decided she would she would announce that I had further Taddo that had made the world headlines.

As yet, how annoying were the moths?

It was more annoying.

It was interesting because when, after the match, you throw all your

dirty kit into a bag which I normally passed to my wife to wash.

And as I got back home to Newcastle, I opened a bag and all these moths flew out and they were still alive.

It was so disgusting. During the game, it was difficult because they were coming

on to your body, they were coming on to the ball, the grass and it was only because I left the

floodlights on the night before it had caused this problem.

Yeah I was I was in the press box at that game and I find myself killing I think enormous quantities of these

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