Sami Awad – Christ Consciousness Under Occupation (N356)
Nomad Podcast
Nomad
4.7 • 689 Ratings
🗓️ 10 November 2025
⏱️ 97 minutes
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Summary
Palestinian peace activist Sami Awad has lived his whole life under military occupation. He’s witnessed violence, loss, and deep injustice. Yet rather than turning towards hatred or certainty, he’s journeyed into a spirituality rooted in compassion, healing, and what he calls Christ consciousness — a way of seeing that refuses separation and fear.
In this conversation, Sami reflects on what it means to love your enemy amid war, to resist without hatred, and to awaken to the divine even in the midst of suffering. He speaks about his rejection of institutional Christianity, his lifelong commitment to nonviolence, and how ritual, grief, and steadfastness have become his practices of hope.
Following the interview, Tim and Anna reflect on how Sami’s experience of faith under occupation challenges their own journeys. They discuss privilege, embodiment, and what it means to find Jesus beyond the institution. Together they explore sumud — steadfastness — as a contemplative form of resistance, and how love, rather than fear, can become the organising principle of faith.
Interview starts at 17m 39s
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| 0:00.0 | The |
| 0:07.0 | The Welcome back to Nomad Podcast. I'm Tim Nash and this is Anna Robinson. Hello everybody. Anna, how on earth are you? I'm all right, Tim. Thanks. Yeah, I'm good. It's been a while since we've had a chat, isn't it? What you've been up to? It's been a while. I've had a birthday. Oh, well, done. Yeah, another year older. It was nice. It's nice to have birthdays and half term because I had my children were there, which is lovely. |
| 0:57.8 | And I had some family friends visiting, and I went for a lovely swim with my blue tits in the morning. The blue tits. That's a great name, isn't it? Isn't it? It's so good. I thought I had to drop that in. Big shout out to any blue tits out there. |
| 1:08.8 | Or just sea swimmers that swim in the sea in the winter and summer. |
| 1:12.7 | Yeah, that was fun. |
| 1:13.6 | My back is on recovery because I had... that in. Big shout out to any blue tits out there. Or just sea swimmers that swim in the sea in the winter and summer. |
| 1:12.7 | Yeah, that was fun. My back is on recovery because I had my back went three weeks ago, but I'm better now, which is brilliant, but hadn't gone for 15 months before. |
| 1:21.7 | So I've been working really hard on Pilates and I've been so proud that my back hasn't had any spasms and then unfortunately it went. But yeah, the sea. It was a bit risky going in the waves because there were big waves and we were bodyboarding and yeah, but it was great fun. A good birthday. Lovely to spend it with friends. I had cocktails in the evening. I had the whole day. Art gallery, coffee, cocktails, meal. Wow, big day. Yeah, I know. It was lovely. |
| 1:45.8 | It was lovely. How are you doing? What's up with you? Oh, yeah, I'm good. Zwifting is my new thing. |
| 1:50.6 | Anna, have you come across Zwifting. Sorry, what? Zwift. Zwifting. How do you spell that? |
| 1:57.1 | Z-W-I-T, Zwift. No, I can safely say I've never. I have not come across that. It's indoor cycling in virtual worlds. What? Indoor cycling? Let me tell you the story, Anna, because I like cycling, as you perhaps know. And in the summer, I get up super early. I've got like a five-mile ride that I do because I live in the city. The roads get super busy by about half six. But obviously in the winter, it's very dark, very cold, so I just |
| 2:22.4 | basically stopped cycling in the winter. But my brother-in-law told me about Zwift, which a lot of |
| 2:27.8 | amateur and professional cyclists use in the off-season. So have you heard of turbo trainers? |
| 2:33.0 | No. So you basically take the back wheel off your bike and attach a turbo trainer-season. So have you heard of turbo trainers? No. So you basically take the back |
| 2:35.2 | wheel off your bike and attach a turbo trainer to it. So you turn your bike into a stationary |
| 2:39.7 | bike. And then the turbo trainer attaches to software on your computer via Bluetooth. So I can go |
| 2:46.5 | for a bike ride in my garden office, but on the computer screen in front of me, I'm an avatar |
| 2:51.9 | in a virtual world. |
| 2:53.6 | So I can meet up with cyclists from all over the world and cycle through loads of |
| 2:58.0 | different virtual worlds. |
| 2:59.5 | It's really cool. |
| 3:00.5 | And the turbo trainer kind of adjusts the resistance, you know, whether you're going |
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