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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Sally Yates v. Donald Trump

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Obama, Washington, Politics, President, Barack, Lizza, Wnyc, News, Wickenden

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2017

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Ryan Lizza joins Dorothy Wickenden to discuss his conversation with the former acting attorney general, Sally Yates.

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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about

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politics. It's Friday, May 18th. I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker.

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Ten days ago, Sally Yates testified before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism

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about her brief, tumultuous tenure as acting attorney general.

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President Trump fired Yates in January after she ordered the Justice Department not to enforce the administration's immigration ban.

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In last week's hearing, Ted Cruz of Texas asked her about

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that decision. Are you familiar with 8 U.S.C. Section 1182? Not off the top of my head, no.

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Well, it is the binding statutory authority for the executive order that you refused to implement

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and that led to your termination. So it certainly is irrelevant and not a terribly obscure statute.

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He went on to rather pompously quote from the statute about the president's authority to suspend

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