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I'm Dorothy Wickenden on today's Politics and More podcast, two interviews with David Remnick.

Michael Anton of the National Security Council talks about the view of the world from inside the White House.

The New Yorker's Robin Wright discusses Trump's first trip abroad as president.

I'd like to start out by asking you about your job, which is relatively new.

Ben Rhodes was the voice of the National Security Council for years in the Obama administration.

Is your job roughly the same?

Well, there's always been a spokesperson or communications director for the NSC, at least for the past

three or four administrations, and I'm filling that role now.

It was said during the Obama administration that Rhodes had a kind of mind meld on issues of

foreign policy with President Obama, And do you feel you've

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