I've always been an entrepreneur. I've always enjoyed negotiating. I've always enjoyed, you know,

the process of barter and trade. I always thought it was really cool. Even when I was very young, like when I'm talking about seven

eight years old, they had these things, you may or may not remember this. I'm guessing

you don't, but they have like stompers and Transformers and G.I. Joe.

Yeah. These little figurines. I would trade these things. Stompers and Transformers and G.I. Joe.

These little figurines.

I would trade these things back and forth for like

Stomper for two G.I. Joe's or, you know,

I trade like one of my G.I. Joe characters for like the milk when you go to school like a couple of

milks and orange juice. I was always doing this like barter and trade thing Ryan.

And as I've got I got a little older, you know I started doing more and more things with sales.

I thought sales was always fascinating to me.

In fact, I still to this day believe that if you know sales, you're never going to starve.

Yeah. It's like one of the best traits that you can learn is sales and then after that marketing right but sales is really crucial and it's not people think it's like a cuss word but if you understand what sales really is, it's really serving someone at the highest

level as long as you do it with integrity.

The challenge is, is most people, when they do set a lot of sales, they just get into

personal gain and they lose the idea of if I get this deal going if there's a

deal happens here it needs to work for both people where the person feels like they

had a good deal and you got a good deal too Not you can't be just one-sided.

Yeah.

So I always just enjoyed this idea of sales,

and then I got involved with selling Kirby Home Cleaning Systems,

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