(Sage) Against the Machine

Catholic Stuff You Should Know

J. 10 Initiative

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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In this week's episode, Fr. Jacob and Fr. John unpack one of the key features of Paul Kingsnorth's Against the Machine: On the Unmaking of Humanity. Understanding the modern world from the perspective of the "machine," the hosts draw us into a conversation about the inner logic of lent, and how to avoid making it an instance of machine-like faith.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Catholic Stuff You Should Know, a J-10 initiative.
0:09.0	Hey, welcome to the podcast. This is Father John. Father Jacob here. How are you doing, Father John?
0:14.9	Doing well, I would say doing well, but actually not doing well. Not doing well at all. I am down to my parents. We had a
0:21.9	wonderful 40th birthday party for a good friend of ours, longtime podcast listeners would know
0:27.7	the name, Andrew Polito, and we were up. The last crew shut it down about 1 o'clock, and
0:33.8	it's now 8 o'clock, and I am feeling my age right now, buddy.
0:40.2	Yes, we celebrated your 40th a few years ago, huh?
0:45.3	Two years ago, to be, yeah, two and a half years ago, to be exact.
0:49.3	I look forward to celebrate your 40th, but that's a little ways out.
0:51.9	I'm coming up on 35 this summer.
1:18.6	35? Oh, that's, you know, Dante says that's Metso DeVita, that's halfway through life. Oh, that's my half. Okay. Well, I'll plan my midlife crisis, and we can work through that in about four months. Yeah, Dante starts his great poem, The Inferno, on midlife, I found myself in a Selva Eskura, in a dark wood, and so he was lost.
1:22.6	So you'll find your way into your 40s, don't you worry about that, buddy.
1:26.3	I had the realization, I think I don't know, I've been telling people this.
1:34.8	When Bishop Gokka was installed, if he turns 75, if he does all of his, you know, time until retirement here in Denver, it would be 15 years, which would put me at 50 when he was retiring.
1:41.3	And that was a scary thought for me.
1:42.7	That was the first time I've ever thought about age and been
1:44.9	like oh oh yeah it's coming because i realized i was closer to 50 than i was to 15 and that was a
1:52.8	new new mode for me new place that's crazy yeah i think i've said that on the podcast before so
1:58.2	obviously it's like sitting with me poorly. You're thinking about it deeply.
2:02.9	I really, really tried to get my mom to join us in the podcast this morning, but she
2:07.4	panicked and ran off.
2:09.3	She wanted to say hi to you.
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