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This is Masters in Business with Barry Rittoltz on Bloomberg Radio.

This week on the podcast, I have an extra special guest.

His name is Safi Bakal, and he is the author of a fascinating book called Loonshots.

Not only was he on President Obama's counsel on the future of technology, but he has

consulted for the CIA, the Navy, all sorts of organizations, teaching them how to nurture

innovation in institutions that normally are not very good at that sort of thing.

He is really a fascinating guy, background in physics, ran a biotech company, and along

the way picked up lots of insights into what leads to successful moonshots as projects,

and why so much innovation is really just smothered in the lab, smothered in the cradle

when it has potential to literally change the war.

The radar is arguably the technology that won the war for the Allies.

It had been sitting in the Navy for 18 years unused and had it not been discovered and

brought forward by Van our Bush and other people.

There's a very real chance the global map would look totally different.

So I think you'll find this conversation to be absolutely fascinating.

My conversation with Safi Bakal.

This is Masters in Business with Barry Rittoltz on Bloomberg Radio.

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