But if you close your eyes, does it almost feel like nothing's changed at all?

And if you close your eyes, does it almost feel like you've been here before.

Now ever gonna be an optimist about this.

How am we gonna be an optimist about this?

No, ever gonna be an optimist about this?

Now ever we're gonna be an optimist about this now how are we going to be an optimist about this?

Where do we begin?

... Well, we recently had the joy of meeting many of you guys at the new Christenum Press annual conference here in Ogden, Utah.

We heard from some great speakers.

Of course, we had Dr. Stephen Wolf out, Andrew Isker, C.J. Angle, J. Chase Davis,

Joel Webbin, Eric Kahn, Dan Burkeholder.

And most importantly, of course, myself.

I'm not just kidding. I'm not keeping it. That was a joke. That was a joke.

It was a joke. I'm not keeping it. Okay. Can we stop? No. I'm just kidding. You can, you can cut in.

And we had some great time with other events.

Like there was feats of strength, there was music, there was dancing, there was laughter, there were tears.

Really, it had it all.

So we thought we'd sit down here in the Kings Hall and just debrief from the conference.

Explain some of our favorite aspects of it, what we learned, what we loved, and what we're looking forward to in next year's conference.

And yes, we are already looking ahead and even have tickets open for next year's conference with some new twists coming up.

So sit down with us here in the Kings Hall and we'll talk through it all with you.

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