This is Heather DeBros, world and now you can live in it two times a week right here in

podcast one. Welcome back everyone. Well, my guest today really needs no introduction.

She's so fabulous. She's a third of the late gang. She's a New York Times bestselling

author. She's a performer. She's a producer. She does it all. Please welcome, Kelsey Knight.

Heather, I'm so glad you showed up with like beautiful skincare and a hat on this morning

because it's we're recording this on Saturday morning. By the way, it's worse than that.

Do you see I'm sweating? What did you just come from workout? I did and I knew I could

do this with you because you're my friend, but like my anxiety today is 10 out of 10 and

my schedule was so tight. I'm like, if I don't run between this time and this time, it

will not happen today. And I need to do it. So I literally just walked in. So I have this

run that I do. I could drop off at the bottom of the hill at our gate. And it's like a

four and a half mile interval. There's hills. It's crazy. It's the best workout ever.

And it ends up my front door. So I literally walked in the front door, grabbed a water

sat down and got on with you. What a subtle flex. Our gate is four and a half miles

from your front door. No, it's probably more like three and a half.

But there's down to the gate. It depends. Sometimes like I'll make one of the kids drive me down

or Terry or my house. You could do a whole housewise episode of you and instead you're hiking

in the hills, you're hiking up your driveway. Listen, if they would let us film in here, I would.

But I'm serious. But like, don't you have to, so when I was younger, when I was in my 20s,

I was on the cigarettes and Diet Coke diet and I was like skinny fat. Yeah. And then it honestly,

it wasn't until I got on house, I said I got fit. But you're a dancer. So you were always fit

and working out. I am actually going through this right now. I have also lived. I lived my 20s

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