"Sacred Attachment" with Michael John Cusick
The Allender Center Podcast
The Allender Center
4.7 • 647 Ratings
🗓️ 17 October 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
In this week's wise and profoundly human conversation, Dr. Dan Allender sits down with longtime friend and former student Michael John Cusick, founder of Restoring the Soul and author of the new book Sacred Attachment: Escaping Spiritual Exhaustion and Trusting in Divine Love.
Together, they explore the link between spiritual exhaustion and divine love, and how attachment, or the way we learn to connect and be connected, shapes our experience of God, ourselves, and one another.
Michael shares pieces of his remarkable story: from surviving profound childhood trauma and addiction to discovering the slow, sacred work of healing that unfolds over a lifetime. He reflects on the moments that first revealed divine love to him and later, the painful exposure that became the turning point of his adult life.
Dan and Michael talk about what it means to practice attachment—to be seen, soothed, safe, and secure—and how even our deepest wounds can become doorways into God's relentless, restorative love.
This episode engages the topic of abuse, particularly sexual abuse and child abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Dan Elmdur, and I want to speak for a moment to the men who are listening, and even more so, to the people who love them. |
| 0:13.0 | Since 1988, I've been leading recovery weeks for both men and women. |
| 0:18.0 | And these six-day in-person, intensive workshops, are designed to create a healing, |
| 0:26.6 | relational space for survivors of childhood sexual abuse to engage their stories. |
| 0:33.6 | But here's the reality. |
| 0:35.6 | Many men struggle to even name their experiences as abuse. |
| 0:41.1 | How many men have been able to name their first experience with pornography as a form of sexual abuse? |
| 0:50.3 | It's so hard to name what still bears shame. |
| 0:54.7 | And we've got to have both the support and courage to be able to enter those stories with a kind of kindness that allows them to be radically changed. |
| 1:07.5 | But when your culture tells you to just push through, to move on, to carry it alone, |
| 1:14.7 | but you just know that silence will never erase the wounds. The impact of betrayal, powerlessness, |
| 1:23.0 | shame, self-contempt shapes the way we lived and the way we live. And it will not change through |
| 1:32.2 | mere desire or prayer. It's got to be through the engagement with story. And that's why |
| 1:40.5 | Recovery Week exists. This is really a rare opportunity of time and space to step away from the noise, to be in a room with other men who understand what's really happening in your body, your heart and mind as a consequence of the past abuse. |
| 2:00.3 | And have both the language and the courage to begin the |
| 2:05.1 | process of helping you reclaim your story. Every year, a small group of men say yes to this process, |
| 2:13.0 | and every year, in ways that will sound perhaps like a sales job. |
| 2:20.3 | But let me simply tell you, we have seen some of the sweetest and most profound transformation |
| 2:27.3 | that I see in my work. It is one of the most favored and significant weeks I spend every year. |
| 2:37.9 | Though this is an advertisement, it's more of an invitation. |
| 2:42.4 | And I hope you'll consider joining us in this life-changing experience. |
| 2:48.1 | If you want to learn more about the upcoming dates and the application process for |
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